The difference between free Americans, and the ones submitted to the Jews.

From: anegyptian
To: BG.James David ; mlgold45@bellsouth.net
Cc: albreitbart@wiesenthal.net
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:13 PM



Please read below how the free Americans are just and truthful, compared to the Zionist liars and deceivers, and cheaters, who always want to twist the truth.
This is a very important document
Cherif
anegyptian

Israelis lies
The only logical response is that if the shooting was done by an Israeli (and that is still being investigated), it must have been by accident.
One Aaron Breitbart
albreitbart@wiesenthal.net



In Arabic we have a proverb that says “what exceeds its limits, flips to opposite results”
How many times did we hear that phrase from the Israelis? “It must have been by accident."
All the killings the Israelis did and still are doing are always”it must have been by accident."




I lost the count of so many Palestinian Children, girls and boys, women and men who according to the terrorist Israelis were killed by accident??

The greatest example of what I say is the USS Liberty that was deliberately attacked by the Israelis, killing 36 American military and other hundred were injured then they reported, it must have been by accident."

When Free Americans were against the killing of that 10 years old Palestinian child shot deliberately in his head by an Israeli soldier ( as it is always the case).

One called Aaron Breitbart did not like what the free Americans wrote and he wrote the following answers.
Cherif
anegyptian

The killing of any innocent civilian,much less a child, during violence,is a tragedy,and could well be a crime if done deliberately.That innocent people suffer by being at the wrong place at the wrong time during conflict is a tragedy.But ask yourself why an well-disciplined Israeli soldier would intentionally shoot an unarmed 10 year -old and subject himself to strong disciplinary action as well as provide Israel's enemies with propaganda ammunition? The only logical response is that if the shooting was done by an Israeli (and that is still being investigated),it must have been by accident.There was just nothing to be gained and so much to lose by such an act if deliberate.As tragic as these things are,they do occur during fighting.Unfortunately,the tone of your letter suggests that Israelis are expected to act like world's only Christians.The double standard you impose is,in itself,indicative of antisemitic animus.

----- Original Message -----
From: mlgold45@bellsouth.net
To: albreitbart@wiesenthal.net
Cc: David, Jim ; Cherif
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:45 AM
Subject: Jews are guilty of hate crimes too

DITTO Mr. Albreitbart - how can you dismiss the shooting of a ten year old child like that - the elephant in the room is Israel and the occupation and the occupied people have a right to fight that occupation. But to shoot little children throwing rocks - what kind of men is that? Cowards, that's what. Many Jews in Israel like Women in Black and others do not support those crimes. Imagine if that happened in America? Maybe you should try it and see what happens. Throw some rocks at some Arabs over here in this country, maybe throw some at the White House and see how far you get. But NO ONE in our White House would shoot little 10 years old children as happened to hundreds of them on their own lands of Palestine. Hundreds shot in the head. Hundreds maimed for life, hundreds more psychologically damaged for life. Children are horrified when they see their parents harassed or killed by Israelis who want to steal the land by running Palestinians off.
The right of Palestinian victims is called the inalienable rights and is recognized internationally. Why don't you support Israel being a REAL democracy instead of a controlled racist and bigoted apartheid system? It's very much like the Civil Rights era in the United States where racism was rampant. That has ended. Homes were firebombed, people were tortured and hanged and frightened and made to work for pennies. Just as Israel is doing to the proud Palestinians who, before the invasion of foreign Jews, tilled their own lands, had beautiful orchards and their Jaffa oranges were known worldwide and it is even written about in old encyclopedias with young Palestine boys selling them or helping to ship them out.

. Why would anyone be proud of destroying such a place?. The same racist system fell in South Africa and that is exactly what the president of Iran was talking about - the zionist state and he said nothing about destroying Israel - that's part of the game, repeat it enough and dummies start to parrot it. But's it's backfiring today. People were treated the same way in S.Africa according to Nelson Mandela. Why would anyone want that type country? It's shameful. And the US pays off countries to recognize it - Egypt, Jordan are paid to make nice to the racist state. It's nothing to be proud of. And Americans are tired of it, many are backing out of the fundamentalist religions because of it. Could it be that the world is finally changing? Countries that were backward, like China, have changed. Israel will have to change too and accept their neighbors, the Palestinian Christians and Muslims as equals which they are. The fact they have persevered speaks of their integrity and courage.
Why don't you start a movement to change Israel?.
MLGOLD45@bellsouth.net




-------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- From: BGJDAVID@aol.com To: abreitbart@wiesenthal.net Cc: mlgold45@bellsouth.net, anegyptian@cherifo.com Subject: Re: FW: Jews are guilty of hate crimes too Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:49:02 +0000


In a message dated 7/30/2008 12:25:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, abreitbart@wiesenthal.net writes:
snore..........................................................................................................................................
I'll bet you wouldn't be snoring if it were a Jewish child that was murdered. You put no value on the lives of Arab children. I can name dozens of times that the Israelis had no concern for the lives of Arab children. And I have never heard any condemnation coming from the ADL or the Wiesenthal Center about these crimes. And I can list many of these crimes and not a peep came from your center.
It was just 2 years ago when the Israelis killed 7 Palestinans on a beach in Gaza. Three of these 7 Palestinians were children under the age of 9. The Israelis tried to deny it was caused by an artillery shell from their sources and tried to put the blame on the Palestinians saying that the bomb that exploded was a bomb left on the beach by the Palestinians. You see, this is the kind of lies that the Israelis forever use. They never admit to their murderous acts, unless they are caught in the act, and in this case that's exactly what happened. There were observers who say that the shells came from an Israeli ship off the coast, and soon afterwards the Israelis admitted to their crimes. Israel admits shell report flaws - Times Online They were caught with their pants down.
Remember Qana, Lebonon in April 1996. That's when the Israelis deliberately targeted a U.N. Refugee camp and killed 103 men, women, and children. They tried to deny the fact that they knew the camp was full of women and children, but a U.N. investigation revealed that the Isaralis were well aware of it. This is the kind of crimes they usually commit and then try their best to deny it.






----- Original Message -----
From: BGJDAVID@aol.com
To: abreitbart@wiesenthal.net
Cc: mlgold45@bellsouth.net ; carlnh@cfl.rr.com ; jdtmorris@yahoo.com ; anegyptian@cherifo.com ; viviancool2@webtv.net ; bobaslone@yahoo.com ; levine@cloud9.net ; ccarlson@whtt.org ; chuckles@chuckbrucks.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Jews are guilty of hate crimes too

In a message dated 7/29/2008 7:47:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, abreitbart@wiesenthal.net writes:
>Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:56:03 -0700>To: bgdavid@aol.com>From: Aaron Breitbart <abreitbart@wiesenthal.net>>Subject: Re: FW: Jews are guilty of hate crimes too
>>There is no society that can claim that all of its policy decisions >are correct.However,hate crimes are those which are deliberate and >motivated by bigotry,bias,and intolerance,and hatred.

The soldier who shot this 10-year-old boy was as deliberate a hate crime that there is.

How can the stones of a 10-year-old boy harm a caterpillar bulldozer? There was no need to shoot the boy and there was no threat towards the Israeli soldiers. The Israelis were confiscating Palestinian land in order to construct their barrier fence. We are tired of your excuses. Killing children is no excuse and according to Amnesty International's 2007 year end report, the Israelis killed 120 children the previous year compared to one Israeli child killed. Are you proud of your record? You tell us that we must "Never Forget" the crimes that happened to your people 60 years ago, but you are committing the same crimes against innocent people that you tell us to "Never Forget."

.I would have thought that a retired military officer would >know that non-combatants get hurt if they're in the wrong place at >the wrong time

This Palestinian child was not at the wrong place at the wrong time. It's the Israeli soldiers on Palestinian land that's in the wrong place at the wrong time. If these were Palestinians on Israeli land constructing a barrier fence they would've all been shot dead and no questions asked. Just last week, the Israelis shot dead an unarmed Palestinian child near the border wall. His only crime was that he was looking for some work in order to help feed his family. Your people have been getting away with murder for too long.
Israeli army kills a Palestinian near a border fence in southern Gaza

>Second,the demolition of homes is not a hate crime. Of course,one >may argue,as some Israelis do,that such a policy is a bad one and is >counter-productive.

It is a hate crime. Let me quote you the Amnesty International's response to Israel's home demolition policy. I quote " Thousands of Palestinians, like Ahmed, live under constant fear of their home being demolished by the Israeli authorities because they have no chance of getting a building permit -- even on land that has belonged to their families for generations. Without a permit their home is effectively illegal." Amnesty International goes on to say, and I quote, "The Palestinians are targeted for no other reason than because they are Palestinians. The demolition of their houses is in no doubt linked with Israeli discriminatory policy to restrict Palestinian development to existing urban areas," said Anthony Coon. "For Israelis, it is a different story. They have few problems obtaining building permits and even if they build homes without authorization, their houses are rarely, if ever, demolished."Amnesty International believes that the policy of house demolitions is a grave human rights violation against the Palestinian residents of the West Bank."

The report ends with the following statement, and I quote again, "By targeting Palestinians for house demolitions and denial of building permits, the Israeli government has violated its obligations under international human rights and humanitarian law which it has promised to uphold," Amnesty International said. "This policy should be ended immediately."
You may recall that the Israeli government made >thousands of Jews leave their homes in the Gaza Strip some years ago >in an ill-fated attempt to secure a modus vivendi with the Palestine >officials.Homes were deliberately taken and only Jews were >targeted.Would you consider this a hate crime,too? In both cases,the >decision to forcibly evacuate and or demolish homes was not arrived >through hate.While one may argue with the decision,the actions do >not constitute hate crimes.

That's a completely different case. These Jews were compensated for their move and many of them moved to illegal settlements in the West Bank. The Palestinians whose homes are demolished are never compensated. And the move out of Gaza was not an act of kindness towards the Palestinians as you would like the world to believe. It was a move out of Gaza because it was beginning to be too expensive and too burdensome on the Israeli government to spend the money and the security on some 750 settlers in illegal settlements on Palestinian land. By removing these Israeli settlers, you now had all of Gaza that you could easily bomb and invade as we witnessed shortly after the move. You bombed their bridges, their utility plants, their hospitals, their schools, etc. You have made Gaza the biggest concentration camp on this planet. If this isn't hate, than I don't know what is.
In both cases,the >decision to forcibly evacuate and or demolish homes was not arrived >through hate.While one may argue with the decision,the actions do >not constitute hate crimes.
They do constitute hate crimes and I proved it above. Yes, one may argue with the decisions, but we have learned from past experience that your efforts have silenced any critic of Israel with the threat of the label "anti-Semite." This ongoing threat of the "anti-Semitic" label helps prevent U.S. media coverage from getting out of hand.

>>>>>---------->>From: BGJDAVID@aol.com [mailto:BGJDAVID@aol.com]>>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:33 PM>>To: information@wiesenthal.net>>Cc: mlgold45@bellsouth.net; carlnh@cfl.rr.com; levine@cloud9.net; >>jdtmorris@yahoo.com; bobaslone@yahoo.com; chuckles@chuckbrucks.com; >>anegyptian@cherifo.com; ccarlson@whtt.org; viviancool2@webtv.net>>Subject: Jews are guilty of hate crimes too>>>>I see where the Simon Wiesenthal Center today condemned the funeral >>of a former concentraton camp commander, saying it was a >>celebration of his crimes.>>Jewish >>group condemns burial of World War II concentration camp commander>>>>My question to you is why I never hear your organization condemning >>crimes committed by the Israelis? Almost everyday the Israelis are >>killing Palestinian children and almost everyday the Israelis are >>demolishing homes of innocent Palestinians, and almost everyday the >>Israelis are uprooting hundreds of olive trees of innocent >>Palestinian farmers whose income depends on these harvests.>>>>The Israelis shot dead a 10-year-old Palestinian boy. They shot >>him at close range right between the eyes. They shot him for no >>other reason than the fact that he was protesting Israel's >>confiscation of Palestinian land in order to extend Israel's barrier wall.>>>>In addition, the Israelis today demolished a Palestinian family's >>home in East Jerusalem. This is a common act by the >>Israelis. According to Amnesty International, the Israelis have >>demolished approximately 12,500 Palestinian homes. These are >>crimes that you seldom hear or read about.>>I see where your group condemns all kinds of hate crimes against >>Jews but I never hear you condemn crimes committed by the >>Jews. When the Israelis shoot dead a 10-year-old Palestinian boy, >>don't you consider this a hate crime? And when the Israelis >>demolish a Palestinian family's house on Palestinian land, don't >>you consider this a hate crime? Why don't you condemn something >>happening today by some of the crimes committed by the >>Israelis? Please let me hear from you. Thank you very much.>>>>Brigadier General, retired, James J. David


>>>>Israelis shoot dead a 10-year-old Palestinian boy>>>>RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) - A 10-year-old Palestinian boy was killed >>by Israeli gunfire Tuesday during a confrontation between troops >>and stone-throwers in a West Bank village, medics and witnesses said.>>The Israeli military had no immediate comment.>>The boy, Ahmed Moussa, was killed in the West Bank village of >>Naalin, site of frequent protests against Israel's separation >>barrier, which threatens to swallow up large tracts of Naalin's land.>>On Tuesday, Israeli forces started erecting a makeshift fence to >>prevent protesters from reaching bulldozers clearing land for the >>barrier, said Salah Khawaja, a community organizer.>>Troops fired tear gas and rubber-coated bullets to disperse >>demonstrators trying to scale the fence, Khawaja said.>>By late afternoon, the clashes had subsided, but several teenage >>boys remained in the area and kept throwing stones at the troops, Khawaja said.>>He said soldiers fired more tear gas and then live bullets. The boy >>was killed by a shot to the forehead, according to medics and an AP >>reporter who saw his body at Ramallah Hospital.>>>> 07/29/08 12:54 EDT>>>>Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. The information contained in >>the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or >>otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The >>Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.>>>>>>The Israelis demolished another Palestinian home in East Jerusalem >>today. Why isn't this act called a terrorist act? Why don't I >>ever hear your organizarion condemning these hate crimes?>>>>>>[]>>>>>>>> Palestinians walk past a destroyed housed that was demolished by >> Israeli authorities Monday, in the east Jerusalem neighborhood of >> Beit Hanina, Tuesday, July 29, 2008. According to Palestinian >> residents of the house, the building was demolished after Israeli >> authorities revoked a building permit. Israeli authorities said >> the house was built without the proper permits. (AP Photo/Tara >> Todras-Whitehill)>>Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. The information contained in >>the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or >>otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The >>Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.

This is how Israel grabs Washington by its throat

This is how Israel grabs Washington by its throat

We should not be surprised with the crazy race that is taking place by the candidates for the American presidency and by their vice presidents, to please Israel and serve its evil cause.
The surprise will vanish if we know how much Israel trough its Zionist Lobby (AIPAC) has infiltrated in the political life of America.
This was explained by an American journalist called “Jeffrey Blankfort” http://www.counterpunch.org/blankfort02242007.html who works in an Anti-Zionist Radio station, he talked about it in a conversation with a local USA newspaper.
Blankfort said that there existed twelve women Zionist organizations that comprise one million Jewish women who have created a slogan “One voice for the sake of Israel “.

These organizations started in the year 2002 to overcome the anger that covered the USA because of the massacre of the helpless Palestinians in the town of Jenine
http://djiin.wordpress.com/2007/11/17/jenin-jeninpalestinejenin-massacre-2002/
That massacre that was carried out by the greatest butcher of all ‘Ariel Sharon “.

From that date 2002 and till now the members of that organization start to call the telephones of the White House and of the Congress all at the same time causing a complete paralysis to both establishments. The goal of this is to convey a message to the American president and to the congress that Israel is capable of paralyzing their communication system in Washington anytime and for any reason. They do that in all the matters that involve Israel against its opponent’s .If they want for example to stand against Iran all the Jewish women start calling at the same time.
Blankfort added that the Israel lobby (AIPAC) enjoys a very special position in America Although it is registered as a lobby to serve Israel, but it is not considered a Lobby to serve a foreign country, so for all the cases that are related to the Middle East the representative of that Lobby sits in every office of every member of the congress a thing that is not allowed to any other lobby. The Israel representative writes all the laws and decrees that are related to the Middle East, as a flagrant example is the “Syrian responsibility law” that the congress have issues under AIPAC influence.
As a kind of bribe Israel invites no less than a hundred of the members of the American congress to visit it with their wives and children and Aipac covers the expenses.
Many lobbies in America are under close inspection but no one dare to approach the Israel lobby as it will be a political suicide.
There are more than 36 Zionist comities for political follow up that avoid mentioning the name Israel like the political comity of North Carolina, and the political comity of Saint Louis and so on...
There is also other organization that makes sure no one criticize the Jews and if someone does twelve thousand members and 600 branches all working together jump on him to destroy and ruin him.

My comment.
People can ask why is that other religions or communities do not make the same?
The answer is that only the Zionist Jews are frustrated and it is in there blood to conspire and cheat and extort, more over money and the Media is in the hands of the Jews.
More important the question should be, why is that the Genuine Americans allow to any of them become such an evil power and dangerous menace.
Cherif
anegyptian


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America is the good pupil of Israel

Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: Israel's influence on the U.S.
America is the good pupil of Israel

There is no logic at all in what America did, bombing a part in Syria with pretext as one Unnamed US officials said the attack had targeted and killed a “smuggler of foreign fighters into Iraq”.I do not believe the Americans who decided to commit that “criminal and terrorist aggression” are in their Normal and sound powers of mind, how many did they think they would kill in that strike ?
They say eight !!! Is this make sense, the mighty USA plan and trouble itself in a raid against a foreign sovereign country only to kill eight ???
Then some American spokesmen to make it worse said "they didn’t kill any of the women and children found at the attacked site"

Not only they made an act of complete Terrorism, but they also lie about it.









You can see in that picture that was published in our local newspaper a dying young woman and two already dead old men ..

America is the good pupil of Israel
Cherif
anegyptian


----- Original Message -----
From: BGJDAVID@aol.com
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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: Israel's influence on the U.S.
This is just one example of Israel's influence on the United States. Just like Israel, we now bomb anyone we don't like, and use the excuse of self-defense to justify our crimes.


US Faces International Condemnation in Wake of Syria Strike News From Antiwar.com

US Faces International Condemnation in Wake of Syria Strike
Posted October 27, 2008
While the White House has declined comment and other US officials defended the strike on a Syrian border town yesterday which killed eight, international condemnation rained down on the strike from a number of sources.
The Syrian government, which already summoned the US Charges d’Affaires to complain about a strike which they labeled as “serious aggression,” had further condemnations and a warning today. Foreign Minister Wallid al-Muallem condemned the strike as an act of “criminal and terrorist aggression” and warned that his government “would defend our territories” in the event of a future attack.
The Lebanese government, which has been on shaky terms with Syria, also harshly condemned the move. Prime Minister Fouad Seniora released a statement condemning the attack as “dangerous” and “unacceptable” and “constitutes a violation of Syrian sovereignty.” Foreign Minister Fawzi Salloukh likewise condemned the raid as a violation of international law.
The Arab League took a similar position, with Secretary General Amr Mussa defending Syria’s “right to defend its land and people” and calling for an investigation into the strike. He also condemned the attack as “a violation of Syrian sovereignty.”
Russia, which had recently negotiated an arms deal with Syria, cautioned against attacks “on the territory of sovereign states under the slogan of the fight against terrorism” and that the attack would have a “sharply negative effect” on the region.
Unnamed US officials said the attack had targeted and killed a “smuggler of foreign fighters into Iraq” and said they didn’t kill any of the women and children found at the attacked site. US officials say the attack is justified under an “expansive definition of self-defense” similar to the argument made by Israel when it attacked a site in Syria last year.
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Zionists are not Imaginary people, they do exist

I once said that Zionists are not imaginary people, they are real living people who exist on the planet earth. But I never heard a Zionist say he is one; because Zionism is the worst thing that can happen to a human being.

Usually a Zionist becomes completely enraged by any truth, truth for him is like poison, when you face him and all the Zionists like him about facts it immediately strip him naked, he can twist that facts and turn it to lies, lies and lies. But deep inside him knows that he is totally naked.
They live in an imaginary world full of deception and distorted truth

There is a French tale about a king who was going naked and everybody in his court praised the imaginary dress he thought he was wearing , until a child one day in a parade pointed to the king and said ," But he is naked ".

In the case of the Zionists the difference is that whatever one shouts they are naked they still continue to believe that they are fully dressed.

Few small but very effective examples of how that Zionist angel is floating in an imaginary Black world of fake and fiction of his own. As when BG. James David more than a dozen times prove to him he was lying and contradicting himself, (Of course he keeps silent in such situations) ( I have the examples ready about homes demolitions )

Another fatal idiotic thing that he once said and I quote him word for word “as I've said before, while I used to be sympathetic to the Palestinians a long time ago, they completely lost me when they started using terrorism to advance their cause."

Here at once one discovers the psychological illness this guy is suffering from.
Can anyone believe this?
It is the Palestinians the owners of the land called Palestine who are the terrorists!!!
He never heard of the atrocities the Jews have committed since they decided to hijack and occupy the land of the Palestinians.
This is the biggest Mistake that pervert Angel made, if he would have said anything , yes any other kind of lie other than this flagrant one, I would have understood, many just hate the Palestinians (Arabs) and one can do nothing about it.. They hate the Arabs for hundred reasons, but to come out with such a stupid and pervert lie, this really proves that guy is mentally abnormal.
I wanted in this occasion to add here all the site that shows the criminal acts of all the Terrorist Zionists, Terrorist Israelis and terrorist Jews, but as they say a picture is worth a thousand word I will suffice by inserting the pictures of all the Israelis Jewish Terrorist and bandits who committed historical that no one can deny slaughters, along the 60 years path of the NAKBA .

Cherif
anegyptian

----- Original Message -----
From: angel@mideastbooks.com
To: BGJDAVID@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: Israel the biggest threat to world peace
If you build your home without a permit in this country, guess what? It will be destroyed, too. And no one will be screaming persecution. You break the law, you pay the consequences. Palestinians (and Arabs in general) have this strange notion that laws are there to be ignored, and then they scream bloody murder. Just like all the thieves, murderers and other misfits that populate our prisons. They've done nothing wrong and they're treated unfairly. You are too funny.
Additionally, more houses built illegally by Jews are destroyed than Arabs because of course in the case of Arabs there is always a riot, whereas the Jews comply. Give me a break.
Angel
On May 21, 2008, at 6:41 AM, BGJDAVID@aol.com wrote:
In a speech to the Knesset, or parliament, last week in Israel, President Bush asserted that the United States has an unbreakable bond with Israel. He said Americans believe that Israel has a right to defend itself from extremists and "killers pledged to its destruction." Is this what you call defending against extremists? The Israelis have demolished more than 12,000 homes of innocent Palestinians. These are homes on Palestinian land, owned by Palestinians for generations, not on land in Israel. These are homes denied building permits because Israel allows permits to Jews only.

I have a very simple way to stop the Jew-Hatred

The author of this letter is a zionist, apart from his constant attacks on Islam religion and Arabs

"Twisted Logic of Muslim Terror. The Fatah-aligned Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade announced its terrorists fired the Kassam rocket that exploded near Sderot last Thursday. Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terrorists explained that they broke the Gaza ceasefire agreement as a demand that it be extended to Judea and Samaria. (They conveniently 'forgot' that the agreement between Hamas and Israel calls for the ceasefire to cover Judea and Samaria in several months if quiet can be maintained in Gaza. There is no difference between the blood-thirsty terrorists of Hamas and Fatah!)"

He is presenting an Article by one Michael Freund saying :

What a colossal waste of Jewish resources! Every year, hundreds of millions of dollars are spent monitoring and examining, exploring and investigating the extent of global anti-Semitism. Reports are compiled, press conferences are held, and trends are carefully studied and assessed, all as part of a monumental effort to track the spread of that age-old virus known as Jew-hatred. On the governmental level, the US State Department maintains an Office to Monitor and Combat anti-Semitism,
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Instead of wasting Jewish resources and hundreds of millions of dollars every year, all as part of a monumental effort to track the spread of that age-old virus known as Jew-hatred.
Plus it is usuless for the US State Department to maintain an Office to Monitor and Combat anti-Semitism.
( This of course is one of the many results the American Administartion being totally submitted to the Jews )

I have a very simple way to stop the Jew-Hatred.
All the Jews have to do, is stop being the following:
Terrorists
Thieves
Truth Twisters
Blackmailers
Corrupts
Murderers
Land robbers
Children killers
Conspirers
Cheaters
Spies
Deceivers
Crooks
Criminals
Malefactors
Outlaws
Manslayers
Extortionists
Warmongers
And Liars
Maybe then the world can stop hating them!
Why do you think they were punished for? by more than 30 countries throughout history ???
Were the more than thirty countries at fault ?
Or is it because the Jews are the world greatest enemy.

See for yourself.
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jewish-story/filmfra.htm

They love to convey disasters to the rest of the humanity.
After what they did in Germany, and since they have robbed the land of the Palestinians they did not stop creating disturbance all over the world.
Now they want to attack peaceful Iran, they don't care about the devastations and the destructions that could result from such a foolish and criminal act.

Cherif
anegyptian


----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Shamrak
To: stevenshamrak@prodoscope.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:45 AM
Subject: Playing into the anti-Semites' hands * Another Fake Friend * Charadeof Calm * Morality of Self-Hate
Playing into the anti-Semites' hands.
by Michael Freund
What a colossal waste of Jewish resources! Every year, hundreds of millions of dollars are spent monitoring and examining, exploring and investigating the extent of global anti-Semitism. Reports are compiled, press conferences are held, and trends are carefully studied and assessed, all as part of a monumental effort to track the spread of that age-old virus known as Jew-hatred.
On the governmental level, the US State Department maintains an Office to Monitor and Combat anti-Semitism, while Israel runs its own Coordination Forum for Countering Anti-Semitism. Universities from Yale to Hebrew U have created centers to study the phenomenon, and then, of course, there is the alphabet-soup list of American Jewish groups, such as the ADL and AJC, all of whom make a fine living by sounding the alarm over anti-Jewish bigotry.
And yet, despite it all, confusion still reigns regarding the very nature of the beast. Who hates us so much? And why? You'd think that after pouring so much time and money into the issue, we'd have a better grasp of the subject…
Instead of worrying so much about the haters, let's start concerning ourselves more with those whom they hate... Fighting Jew-hatred is important, and needs to remain a priority. But when it comes to investing in the Jewish future, and ensuring our survival as Jews, everything else simply pales in comparison.
Each year, the organized Jewish community in the United States spends tens of millions of dollars monitoring and tracking anti-Semitism, thanks in no small measure to a duplication of efforts among various Jewish organizations.
The result is that money that could be spent to strengthen Jewish life and Jewish education (and building up the sense of Jewish National identity and pride) is instead frittered away needlessly. And ironically enough it plays right into the hands of the anti-Semites themselves. (Jews worldwide spend time, energy and money reacting to all sorts of anti-Semitic and anti-Israel bigotry. Successful people do not react to the distractions created by enemies. They visualise their own goals, develop plans and act with persistence and determination! Only this way Israel will be able to end Arab terror and will Jews regain their self-respect. After that the bigots will shut up!)
Hamas has rejected another proposal by Israel for a prisoner swap deal to free kidnapped IDF Cpl. Gilad Shalit.
Food for Thought. by Steven Shamrak
Deep inside there is not much difference between Jews, regardless of their political or religious affiliation and in their hopes for the future of the Eretz-Israel. After 2000 years of life in Galut, slavery, we just have to learn how to bring ourselves to the realisation that we are in charge of our own lives and we are the makers of our own future. Jewish unity is the key!

Why did the Zionists attack Egypt during the Geneva international book fair?

There is an endless war going on between the Zionist Israelis Jews, and the Egyptians.

The Egyptians are the only people on this planet, who knows the origin and the truth about the Jews.

In the occasion that Switzerland have named Egypt as the guest of honor to the international Swiss Book Fair 2008.
Please read the following article written by my friend Mohamed Salmawi, the editor in chief of the Egyptian French weekly " Al-Ahram Hebdo" and the chairman of the Egyptian Book Association.

You can read the article in French at the following Link.

http://hebdo.ahram.org.eg/arab/ahram/2008/5/14/opin1.htm

I have translated the Article from French to English, please forgive my bad English.

Mr. Mohamed Salmawi starts his article as follows.

In an interview with the Swiss Television, the correspondent asked me, what is your evaluation of the Swiss Book Fair, and to what extent did the Egyptian participation was successful, as an honorary guest of honor for this year 2008?

To answer him, I pointed at the Egyptian Pavilion that was right behind us, and asked him to look at that great number of interested people that are gathering in the Egyptian wing, they want to learn more about the Egyptian culture through the Books exposed.
Also look at the big crowd that is attending the cultural lectures that have covered all and every field from the Egyptian theatrical, cinematographic, and plastic arts, to the cultural and historical subjects. From the globalization and the dialogue of civilizations to the woman status.
Please look at the number of people who are attending the Panoramic show that is presented daily by the Center of documentation of Heritage and Civilization in Egypt; it is a wonderful show that demonstrates the different Egyptians Era's and epochs, starting with the Pharaonic, then with the Coptic, then the Islamic ending with the present time.
Finally look at the Pharaonic exhibition that is taking place in the big hall annexing the Egyptian Pavilion.
All this is a clear ( Visual Picture ) of the success of Egyptian participation to the international Fair, and what you see is more effective than any comment from me, or from any other, People have willingly waited for long periods of time in front of the Cinemas doors that were projecting Egyptian movies and films like "The Earth", "The Mummy", "Cairo 30", "My World my Love" and "The Memoirs of a village district attorney".

The Egyptologist " Massimo Patani " told me that it is only natural that the public be attracted by the Pharaonic exhibition, but the surprise, according to Massimo, was the interest they showed in the Egyptian modern culture that is translated by the big flow to the Egyptian Books and lectures in this international fair.
I myself ( Continue Mohamed Salmawi) have overheard Swiss groups expressing their admiration towards the Egyptian presence in this Book Fair.

This was the first time that Egypt alone be invited to attend as guest of honor in am international Book fair. Many times Egypt have participated with the Arab nation in other Book fairs like in Frankfurt 2002, and in London only last month.

Monsieur Pierre Marcel Favre the president of the Geneva Book salon, told me that when he made the agreement with Egypt he was expecting that kind of success, this is why he offered Egypt the biggest surface in the fair that no other participant ever got.

I did not fail ( continue Mohamed Salmawi) to tell the Swiss TV correspondent that the real success of this Egyptian presence was the failed and ugly attack against Egypt that some Zionist Group attempted to make few days ago, by one Jewish named Shimon Samuels the responsible of the center of studies of "Simon Wiesenthal" who sent an official letter to the Book Fair administration, in which he objected the fact that Egypt be chosen as the guest of honor saying he was surprised to find that on the head of the list of the Egyptian lecturers at the Egyptian Pavilion was "Mohamed Salmawi", who it has been said, was a Holocaust revisionist.
The Zionist Samuels pretended in his letter that the Egyptian Pavilion contained also Anti-Semitic Books, he mentioned a Book entitled " Israel its acts and its words" written by a lady writer names "Neamat Fouad", and another book " The Jews in the eyes of its critics". by Dr. Abdel-Wahid Al-Masri.
The truth is (Continue M.Salmawi) Dr. Neamat Fouad never wrote a book with the mentioned title also there is no Egyptian writer called Abdel Wahid El Masri .
More than that the accusations to me by that Zionist is a big lie because I have never published any studies about the Holocaust.
The fact that this Jew Samuels uses the expression "It has been said " gives a lack of credibility to the Jewish center of studies, as any center of studies should build his studies on very precise facts and not on hear say as he mentioned!

Dr Nasser Al Ansari the director of the general Book organization sent an official denial to the ( Tribune ) a Swiss Newspaper who had published an article about the Zionist objection.
In his denial letter Dr. Ansari assured that the books mentioned in that Jewish objections do not even exist from the first place. This is what the same Newspaper published the second day with a caricature showing the three Pyramids of Cairo, with a forth Pyramid that was the Egyptian book Pavilion.
The Jewish Vizintal Center who is in pursuit of the Nazi's, had asked the Swiss Exhibition administration to confiscate the above mentioned Books and stop dealing with the Egyptian publishers, but the Director of the Swiss Fair answered that the exhibition is not a police organization, and who ever sees that any book is in contradiction with the law can himself make an appeal to the court to investigate and take whatever action is necessary.

Mr. Salmawi concluded his article by stating that apart from this Zionist incident, the participation of Egypt and of the Egyptians as guests of honor in the Geneva International Book fair, was a great success, it gained the admiration of the public with all what have been demonstrated, either the Books or the many other cultural elements, the writers and the publications specially what have been produced in French language, the Egyptians Pavilion and its presence made a terrific effect this year 2008 in that Geneva international Book fair.


Now lets remember the question that Salmawi asked at the heading of his article.

Why did the Jews attack Egypt during the Geneva international book fair?

I personally can answer my friend Salmawi's question, by saying that the Jews along history have demonstrated to be a people who is always causing troubles.
The Jews are always interfering with anything good and successful, turning it to a bad and awful thing.
If it is not against Egypt their biggest enemy, it will be against any other country, they do not care about credibility, they are continuously and routinely lying, twisting the facts, and deforming the truth., then they leave it to you to prove otherwise if you can .

They are always bringing the expressions they invented "Anti-Semitic" and the "Holocaust" in any of their ugly arguments, counting on the terror it will induce, and the fear it will create to the submitted and weak people, and to many others who make a living from the Jews.

Now I would like to remind you of what I always said describing the Jews.
The Jews are criminals, liars, terrorists, blackmailers, racists, conspirators, truth twisters, intriguers, extortionists, thieves Child murderers.

Cherif
anegyptian.

A debate with a Zionist
See how Zionists lie and twist the truth.

From: anegyptian
To: David Levine
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Israel jawboning US into striking Iran

*Very kind of you to thank me, I can send you other horrible pictures of molested children, Arab babies Palestinian girls with their brain out of their heads.
You are brain washed, it seems your eyes never saw such shocking pictures. I understand the Israel lobby who is governing your country would not permit the US media to show it.

About the same pictures the Israeli have, how many can you show me ? Two or three??? while at the Palestinian side I can show you hundreds not to say thousands !!!
The Palestinians don't hate their neighbours, they are defending their freedom, it is not the Palestinians who came and occupied Israel, it is the Israelis who came and occupied Palestine,

Ask your friends the Israelis to withdraw from all the land they are occupyting and the problem will be solved.
The Israelis don't want peace, they want land...nobody want to understand this fact.
I asked once what Americans would do if an outsider came to occupy a part of its land ?

*You are misinformed about what is going on in this part of the world, you talk about Arab rockets ??
This is again pure example of Zionist fabrication and propaganda!!!
What you call rockets are home made junk that could explode in the one firing it .
This is not to compare with the warplanes, the Tanks, the bombs, the missiles, the highly sophisticated laser tracing gear, etc etc not to mention the weapons of Mass destruction, that Israel is using to kill the Arabs. It is all made in USA .

*Now all what you said here about Rachel Corrie is truth twisting, and is exactly what is expected from a Zionist like yourself to say; only to cover for the brutality of the Israeli Jews.
Rachel Corie herself was a Jew , I don't hide my negative position against the Jews but I am defending her because I am a free man who defend the truth, I am against all injustice.

Rachel Corrie was brutally murdered by the Israelis.....and they said it was an accident.
"Rachel Corrie was crushed to death in March 2003 while blocking a 60-tons Israeli-driven Caterpillar bulldozer that was planning to demolish a Palestinian home she was protecting in Rafah in the Gaza Strip.
The bulldozer passed over her body twice and the Israeli authorities unabashedly claimed that her death was an "accident". Her colleagues in the International Solidarity Movement witnessed the incident and were able to retrieve her badly damaged body. The State Department has said that the investigation was neither transparent nor credible. "
http://images.google.com/images?q=Rachel+Corrie+rafah+photos&hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBF_enEG240EG240&pwst=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=images&ct=title

This is not the first nor the last time the Israeli Jews commit act of murder and pretend it was an accident ( Remember the USS Liberty ??)

About the book of the dead, known also as The Papyrus of Anihttp://www.wsu.edu/~dee/EGYPT/BOD125.HTM

* you should educate yourself because it was not my ancestors the Ancient Egyptians who worshiped the cows, The Ancient Egyptians were the first on this planet to worship one GOD (ATUM) the unique who could create himself by himself, all the rest were secondary gods to serve the one and only supreme God.

For your information when they fled from Egypt with Moses the magician, it is the Jews who worshiped a Cow this Cow was made out of the gold stolen from the Egyptians, they made that cow while Moses was on mount Sinai looking for the ten commandments (Taken from the book of the dead) . when Moses came back he found the Jews worshiping and dancing in circles around that Cow considering it their new God.!!!!
The Jews at that time were very clever, they were lost for forty years in The Sinai desert....
Cherif
anegyptian

I am loosing a hell of a time educating you .. ( This is my last response )

----- Original Message -----
From: David Levine
To: anegyptian
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Israel jawboning US into striking Iran

Thank you for the info you passed on to me. The pictures only prove one thing. War is hell. Every war in history has yielded horrors such as the ones you have collected, on both sides. Certainly you are clear thinking enough to know that. War is hell. Don't start them, don't prepare for them and don't educate your children to hate your neighbors. That is the lesson of your pictures. Surely you know Israel has volumes of similar pictures to display when Israeli civilians have been deliberately targeted by Arab murderers while on buses, airplanes, in Pizza shops etc. etc. in deliberate attempts to cause as much death and pain as possible. And now, after the withdrawal from Gaza has proven that Arabs have no intention to leave Israel in peace but will settle for nothing other than its destruction ( witness the 2800 rockets that have been fired from Gaza into Israel in the past year) the attempts to commit mass murder of civilians continues.

I never said Rachel Corrie was armed. She was interceding in a battle zone in which the Israeli bulldozer was doing what it had been ordered to do for strategic reasons. She was warned repeatedly to get out of the way- I believe the warnings were given over a 2 day period. She kept coming back- ignoring the warnings and the danger. This was a war zone and she was taking sides with one of the combatants in the war zone by interfering with the efforts of the other combatant. She chose to ignore the warnings with the unfortunate but clearly foreseeable result. She was given the choice and she made the wrong decision in a very dangerous situation. I blame her parents who brought her up to not value their own daughter's life.

I will try to access the text of the Book of the Dead. Even if what you say is true, the ancient nor contemporary Egyptians certainly did not manifest that they obeyed the tenets supposedly therein. Child sacrifice, the enslavement of others, worship of cows, worship of Pharaoh as if he were God etc etc. and then centuries of opression of women, honor killings etc. etc.


From: anegyptian
To: David Levine

Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: Israel jawboning US into striking Iran

Are you serious asking for pictures ??
or maybe you are living on another planet ???
I am sending you only a microscopical sample of the Tons of horrible pictures made in Israel that I have in my data base.

One of many obvious proofs of Jews distorting the truth, is your comment about Rachel Corrie...
Please read it again and see how you are distorting the truth.
Rachel Corrie was not a pathetic fool, Rachel Corrie was not an enemy soldier, Rachel Corrie was not at war ( was she armed to the teeth as your description ?) Rachel Corrie was at peace, But distorting the truth is the Jews game since ages.....
Even war has it rules, but the Israeli Jews are only brave against unarmed and disarmed people. ( I have more pictures )

Mind you no one and I repeat , no one knows the deep truth about the Jews better than an Egyptian, Moses was an Egyptian he was born and died in Egypt, the ten commandants are only a blurred copy of the ancient Egyptian papyrus known as the book of the dead ...
Cherif
anegyptian
To know more about the Jews Please visit :
http://www.cherifo.com/child.htm


From: David Levine
To: cherifo1

Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: Israel jawboning US into striking Iran

Please send me proof you say you have re: zionists cheating and kill and steal and the photos you say you have. I look forward to receiving that info from you.

Rachel Corrie was a pathetic fool who thought she could put herself on a battlefield between enemies armed to the teeth and take the side of one of the combatants against the other. By doing so she became an enemy soldier and died on the battlefield by her own choosing. Wars are dangerous and when you take part in them you have to anticipate the possibility of being killed. Her clueless parents are the ones to blame for miseducating her and valuing her life so little- sending her off into fight she had no need to be part of. Their stupidity led to her death. War is dangerous.


From: cherifo1
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:@bigbang.wyith.com;
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:36 PM
Subject: Fw: Israel jawboning US into striking Iran
Dear friends

This is a debate between a wonderful lady who know the truth about life and freedom, and a Zionist who is blinded by the doctrines and the protocols of Zion's .
I wonder if America is occupied by outsiders, like Palestine is occupied by immigrant Jewish bandits , what the American will do ??
Will they welcome the occupiers ???

I can comment on every phrase this Zionist have written ( As I already once did ) showing how the Zionists are twisting the truth how they conspire against the rest of the world how they cheat and kill and steal, I can show the truth about what is going on, I can send him pictures of molested Children, of old men blown up by rockets when they are on wheel chairs, of houses demolished to the ground leaving whole families on the open without any shelter, of trees and field devastated by planes and bulldozers, Not only trees but humans crushed under bulldozers (Remember Rachel Corrie??).
I can repeat what the Zionist leaders of Israel have said about how they will treat the Palestinians....Forgetting what they pretend happened to them, in what they call the Holocaust...

But it will be a loss of time because people like this Zionist will never see the truth until one day the Americans will wake up and the Israel lobby will vanish, that lobby that without it Israel equals a big Zero.
Cherif


----- Original Message -----
From: Jean's Art
To: David Levine

Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Israel jawboning US into striking Iran

Well, Mr. Levine,
Don't forget the King David Hotel bombing by Irgun and Stern. Don't forget that using the bible as an excuse for stealing land is no excuse. Read "All the Remains" and you'll see the documentation of homes and lands owned by Palestinian Christians and Muslims. Author Khalidi.

If you haven't personally visited the concentration camps as my late husband and I did and if you haven't seen where homes were destroyed, only the rock walls remaining before the so-called settlements began to grow up like something from outer space, and if you have not witnessed the fancy swimming pools using water while the Palestinians had their rain barrels urinated in on tops of homes (we witnessed that), and if you have not realized that zionism is ugly, bigoted and racist, then you have no reason to talk. Don't talk history to me. I'm a history buff but I see more than one side and I see that WWII caused Jews to flock to Palestine, not anything in their religion as most European Jews didn't follow a religion. Many were communists as well. That's where the kibbutzs got their ideas. Government owned.

And by the way, Jews are not a race, they are a religion, and others can convert to Judaism and have for ages, and Jews have converted away from Judaism and become Christian, even a few have become Muslims and those who do, are no longer Jews of course. I have a close friend who did that very thing, became a Methodist and was no longer a Jew. There was an article in the Atlanta paper a few years back about intermarriage and that the new converts to Judaism were more radical about Israel than those born into the religion, like Baptists, etc., who are born into their religion until they convert.

I laugh when I hear someone say they are part Jewish and part French or African. Ignorance is bliss I guess as they say. The late Ann Landers wrote about Jews not being a race - anyone can convert just by studying with someone, just as they do to Catholicism. There are Chinese yellow skinned Jews, black African Jews, olive skinned Arab Jews. One cannot convert to or from a race you know. You DO know that don't you?

And don't forget when foreign European Jews came to Palestine and murdered people basically unarmed, children were found wandering in the streets after mothers were raped and murdered by Irgun and Stern gangs. That's all documented. And don't forget that Yitzhak Rabin wrote in his menoirs (banned in Israel for a time) his soldiers were told to "drive them out" and they did, elderly, women, children, many died on the marches to Ramle and Lydda. All documented. Rabin later, after having soldiers break the bones of legs and arms of skinny little kids 10 to 13 years old, broke them with the butts of guns and with large rocks, and that was on CNN, he later took a peace turn and was honest about that, but he was murdered by a terrorist Jew who had been indoctrinated by the likes of Shamir and Sharon. Surely you've read Rabin's memoirs?

Oh I know you think the place never bloomed until "settlers" came from Europe after WWII, but the desert had always bloomed and there are old encyclopedias showing that. And the Dead Sea was a place where the native population went on picnics. Then it was chained off and signs warning of bombs Israelis had placed there to keep the indigenous population out. So we went to see that and witnessed the signs. The place had been turned into a money making place with naked women of all ages including children, going around naked, unlike what the Palestinians or we were accustomed to!

Friends of mine visited Beduins years ago, and were treated like royalty and wrote about it. One lived in Kuwait. One now lives in Saudi Arabia, from England (totally different story from there too that you do not get in the U.S.).

Sorry, but Zionism is evil whether from Christian televangelists who no more believe what they spout than the man in the moon but they worship the money it brings in - or whether it is Jews. The Christian fundamentalists want all the Jews to go to Israel as if it were the same ancient little town from over 2000 years ago - good grief, what a laugh - and of course they want them to go there so they will convert to Christianity or be killed. Of course that is if Jesus comes down with cherubs and harps. But think about it. If Mohammed came down with cherubs, out of the sky, angels singing, every person around would bow down and become a Muslim! including you! Can you imagine Barbra Streisand and her ilk going to live in Israel a place for Jews only?
What a laugh. More Jews live outside Israel than inside and that won't change. Oh an article in the Atlanta paper a few years ago, quoted a rabbi who said "America is the promised land of the Jews." Sure looks that way. Israel is just a place to send
tax free donations for a lot of people.

So, don't give me the biblical excuses for theft and murder and atomic weapons. It's a crock! And further more it's downright evil, causes hatred, bigotry and totally unnecessary wars. And as to unnecessary wars and threats of wars, Israel is the elephant in the room with its massive arsenal of chemical, biological, nuclear weapons to threaten world peace with. Israel should be forced to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and not supported economically by the US. It is a rich country armed to the teeth. Until it signs that treaty and gets rid of nuclear weapons, everyone around it will want the same thing as defense. The M.E. should be made a nuclear free zone.
So there.
Jean's Art


----- Original Message -----
From: David Levine
To: Jean's Art

Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: Israel jawboning US into striking Iran

Sorry about the delay in responding to this. I have been traveling and will be away again most of January and again in March. You guys like to talk about the illegal and brutal occupation but always leave out the context. There would be no "occupation" and no checkpoints if it were not for the relentless attacks on Israel and numerous attempts to annihilate that state and murder its inhabitants. Israel is a legitamate nation established in 1948 by the United nations - but also derives its legitamacy from the Bible in which God promises this land to the descendents of Jacob- not Ishmael and not Esau. The descendents of Ishmael ( the Arabs) inhabit and have legitamacy in a land area more than 100 times the size of Israel ( which is smaller than Lake Michigan) and the descendents of Esau have the rest of the world- yet the Arab's greed and envy drives them to steal the inheritance of the Jews. Until the Jews returned to Israel it was a neglected backwater, a desert wasteland inhabited by a few hundred thousand Arabs and several tens of thousand Jews who were governed as part of the Ottoman Empire. The only independent nation that ever existed on that land was Israel (Jewish) and Judea until the Jews were driven out by the Romans.

On the very days that the nation of Israel was reestablished in 1948 the surrounding Arab nations went to war to destroy it even though the wave of immigration coming from Europe had brought nothing but improvement in every way to the lives of the Arab inhabitants. The early settlers established agricultural communities and created an economy - hired arab labor and provided them with incvomes whereas until them they had lived as feudal serfs (fellayin) on land owned by absentee landlords (effendi). This economy attracted more impoverished Arabs ( many from Syria and Jordan) to move into the area and improve the lives of their families. When I first visited Israel in 1956 the streets of Jerusalem were lined with blind Arab beggars blinded by trachoma- an easily preventable bacterial disease. Within a few short years Jewish doctors ended that scourge and saved untold numbers of arabs from the scourge of that disease. The Jews drained the malarial swamps in the Hula Valley and turned it into an agricultural bonanza. The life expectancy of arabs in the area began to increase and the quality of their lives took great leaps forward. Nevertheless, their leaders- mostly the land owning effendis feeling threatened by the possible loss of control over their slave labor- now that they had alternatives- and for other fanaical political religious reasons set their poor uneducated brethern against the people who had helped them the most.

I don't know how old you are- but I remember very well the murderous attacks which were perpetrated by Arabs against Jews on a daily basis from that time forward. I suspect you are well aware of it- all you had to do is read the daily newspapers in the US to get the reports. You describe how well you were treated by the Arabs and how safe you felt and make it seem like the crazy Israelis were attacking Arabs for fun and games. Your anecdotes are not persuasive. Pregnant women were caught at the checkpoints with bombs strapped to their bodies. Ambulances bringing patients supposedly to be treated at Israeli hospital were used to smuggle arms and explosives. Boys carrying bundles on their heads were actually carrying bombs. Infact, in the first unsuccessful attack on Benazir Bhutto about a month ago the bomb that exploded was strapped to the body of a baby who was blown to pieces in the process.. of couurse these are Pakistanis and not Palestinians you may argue- but they are cut of the same cloth and emerge from the same culture- a culture of murder and assasination. No sane person can not understand the militant Israeli reaction to such ongoing atrocities. You would like us all to forget Arafat, the Munich massacres, Entebbe, the uncountable killings, incursions and unrelenting promise to wipe Israel off the map. But you know all this and my pointing it out will not change your mindset . I can tell you that in 1956 I was shot at by Jordanian soldiers standing on the old city walls who were in a position to kill people on the streets of Jerusalem at will which they did. The checkpoints prevent these infiltrations just as the seperation wall has been successful as a deterent.

You write this as if the brutality is all from one side. There is a war going on- not a war of Israel's choosing and they are facing a brutal enemy- an enemy which intends to have Islam take over the world. It is a war which has been going on since before 1948. You speak of concentration camps and raw sewage. You can blame the Arab world which refused to resettle these people who share the samr religion, culture and language with them. You can blame the nations of the world who set up these camps but you can't blame Israel for not inviting in people who are still sworn to its destruction. 800,000 Jews were expelled pennyless from Arab countries in the 1950's- they were resettled in Israel population at the time -under 4 million- and are now fully integrated and thriving. The 600,000 or so refugees from Palestine who were refugees because they and their bretheren went to war to destroy Israel could easily have been absorbed into the 21 Arab nations with 220 million in population. Those cute little kids whose arms and legs were broken were throwing rocks and molotov cocktails- and preventing life from going on- How do you stop that? You appeal to the parents- but when it is the parents who are teaching them to do it what is the next step. Should they be shot dead? Tear gas was tried- many things were tried but these kids were taughts to be weapons of war and were being used as such and for propaganda purposes so that good hearted people like yourself could be apealed to to turn public opinion against Israel. We see that kind of behavior repeated around the world now. Iran used orphans and children to clear minefields ( Ahmadinijad was in charge of that) during the Iran Iraq war.

You covered alot of ground in your letter. You speak of a father Jacob ready to sacrifice his child to God and then being stopped by ZGod and told to sacrifice a ram instead. Let me tell you how we Jews understand that story- there are several interpretations- but the most telling one is that these people lived in a time when child sacrifice and the sacrifice of virgins and the worship of animals was the common practice of the nations among whom the small family - the family of Jacob lived. The lesson of the story is that people believed in those old and primitive times that God could be appeased by human sacrifice. This is an instruction from God that God does not want the sacrifice of humans and that animals are not to be worshipped but that there is only one God above- the creator of the heavens and the earth and everything therin and that he is a God of peace and love and not of cruelty and that human sacrifice is evil. That is the way Jews have always taught the story to their children and it is sad that you are not aware of it.

You wonder if the little kid who had the package knocked off his head became a suicide bomber. Six million Jews were murdered in the seconds world war but you didn't find Jews after the war blowing themselves up in German cafes or placing bombs on German buses.

You comment about Christian Zionists wanting Armageddon- you are somewhat correct about this but their motivation is more that they read the Bible and know that God promised the land to the Jews and they believe in the God of abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Interesting thing is that you don't comment on the greater and imminent danger- the danger posed by Islamofascists like Ahmadinijad who had the main street of Teheran widened when he was Mayor there as preperation for the coming of the Mahdi- a prophet who never died but is about to come out of hiding and convert the whole world to Islam and bring it under Sharia law. Do you know what Sharia law is and do you want to live under it? Do you want your daughter to be subject to honor killing and have to wear a Burqua and not be allowed to get an educataion? There is a war going on all over the world and Israel is only a small part of it. Almost every war on the face of the planet in the past 20 years has involved Islamic fundementalists - in Chechnya, the Phillipines, Pakistan, Kashmir, Kenya, Nigeria, Sudan, Somalia, Algeria ( ongoing more than 200,000 dead), Bosnia-Albania-Kosovo, Lebanon, Israel, Iraq, Afganistan and list goes on and on. This is about the political aspirations of fanatical Islamists who want to take over the world by the sword. It will not stop if Israel is destroyed and Israel is not its root cause. Israel, unfortunately, finds herself at one of the frontlines of the battle. You need to study the history of the Muslim Brotherhood, of wahabbiism, of Hassa al Banna, of Qutb and of the relationship between the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and Hitler and the cooperation between them during WW11 and the way Nazi war criminals were hidden in the arab world after the world and taught their techniques to their soulmates among the arabs. You made some anecdotal obssrvations while on a trip to Israel many years ago and now you can't see the forest for the trees.

From: Jean's Art
To: David Levine
Cc: James Morris ; James David ; anegyptian ; Carl Greeley ; dbeasley@ajc.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Israel jawboning US into striking Iran
Merry Christmas to you too David.

I didn't read all this drivel, David, because I've been to Israel and spent a lot of time in the illegally and brutally occupied Palestine Christian and Muslim territories. My late husband, an M.D.,and I went first in the 80s. So we saw what was happening first hand. On one trip for many weeks, we went totally alone and were completely safe from Gaza to Lebanon, insofar as the
Palestinians were concerned. The "checkpoints" we avoided but we did witness them and the brutality that Palestinians suffered
when trying to travel. Forced to wait in the hot sun for hours and often told they could not get through. Just pure meanness.

We saw the wretched concentration camps surrounded by high barbed wire, the one entrance guarded by two sullen
soldiers who did not want us there to see the raw sewage running through the allies while swimming pools were being built
for Jews only in their so-called settlements. Or to see the way the owners of the land were having to live. But we were
amazed as we came in, hot and tired, to have tiny little cups of tea served to us in places where there was nowhere to sit
but on the floor. There were several of us that time, two doctors, one Jewish lady friend,two others and ourselves.

One of the two soldiers guarding the entrance to the camp was from NY and he told me"the Americans have taken everything from us." I had followed him as he made us leave the camp, and kept asking him questions but he'd say nothing. Finally he did say something in his very NY accent. So Americans took things from them? I wanted to stay and talk but the others were
afraid and pulled me away. Oh we saw a lot. We saw a soldier in E. Jerusalem knock a basket of fruit from the head of a little
kid taking things for his family to sell that day. He stood and cried. A nun walked up and gave the laughing soldier a piece of her mind. Wonder if that little kid turned into one of the suicide bombers? And we saw the little kids whose legs and arms were broken by huge rocks by well armed Israeli soldiers, under Rabin's rule. Rabin, God bless him, had turned to peace and was murdered by an Israeli terrorist.

I don't give a whit about the mandates, as they were made up by charlatans who lied to the Palestinians, a land that is clearly in my Bible in pictures and maps, a Bible that also has stories of a father ready to murder his child as a sacrifice to his god (not mine, but his) but guess what? At the last second, his god said, no don't do that, you have proven your faith. Oh? And so the boy went to see his psychiatrist after that and forevermore? Or perhaps killed his father. We don't really know do we. Not really.
Seeing Israel in the 80s made a big impression and changed our lives forever.

The elephant in the room is Israel with its vast nuclear arsenal they tried soooooooo hard to keep secret they kidnapped and imprisoned one of their own, Mordechai Vannunu, an honest man and put him into solitary confinement. But even during JFK's time, the nuke building was known, and JFK, knowing the terrorists like Shamir, and Begin, et al was against a rogue country like Israel having nuclear weapons. JFK was murdered of course, and Jack Rubenstein (better known as Ruby) made sure Oswald never talked. With the exception of Eisenhour, we have had cowards in the White House. The world would have been better off by far and world peace and security a reality if Israel had been held back from expanding as it did and does. Now we have countries wanting nuclear weapons in their own defense against a country that is a threat to all of us.
And a funny thing with the idiot Christian fundamentalist Zionists, is that they want Armageddon and Bush et al act like they do too, BUT they work overtime to be sure it does not happen by bombing anyone who dares to copy Israel and get WMD. It's all madness and has to end in a Nuclear Free Middle East starting with Israel and a real democracy that gives equal rights to all of the Palestinians whose lands, homes and means of existence was stolen from them at the point of guns.

There is nothing you can say to change the picture. Read some of Dr. Alfred Lilienthal's books for a start, a brave man.
Jean

From: David Levine
To: James Morris
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Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Israel jawboning US into striking Iran

Israel is a nation of 7.5 million people, 1.3 million of them are Arabs. Israel is surrounded with its back to the sea by nations which have been trying to wipe it out from the day of its birth as a result of a United Nations mandate. The "occupation" and the security wall ( which cut successful terrorist attacks by 95% and saved many lives) and the checkpoints are necessitated by constant Arab attempt to murder innocent families, children and people trying to go about their peaceful daily lives. No group in history has squandered the largess heaped on them by the generosity of the international commu nity as the Palestinians. Instead of building hospitals and infrastructure for the benefit of the people they have spent it on education in hatred and support for armed murderers. The leaders have turned themselves into billionaires, kleptomania and corruption reign supreme. Israel's nukes are defensive- as witnessed by the fact that they have never used them nor threatened though sorely tested in the 73 war - even against those who have vowed to destroy it. The Iranians promise nuclear war on Israel as soon as they think they can succeed with it. At very least they will proliferate weapons to terror groups attempting to destroy New York, Wash D.C. etc. So little Israel, outnumbered 220 million Arabs vs 6 million Jews- and those Arabs have 200 timesthe land area inhabited by Israel- they also have vast oil wealth- have not used it for the advamcement of freedom or justice. They don't object when Sudan enslaves and slaughters 2 million not only Christian and animist Arabs- but also black Muslims in Darfur- They don't complain when Somalia is being decimated or when their coreligionists spread murder and hatred throughout the world. But they get very upset whenever Israel impliments its God given right of self defense. Over the past 20 years, deaths resulting from the Arab Israeli conflict represent .03% of the total deaths from war in the world. Yet the United Nations- dominated by dictatorships and Arab oil states do almost nothing except for constant condemnations of Israel which is trying to protect its borders and the lives of its people. You've got to be blind not to see this. We really don't know if the 9-11 murderers were secular.. It is nevertheless possible to be secular and an Islamist because it is a political movement which has its rooots in Islamism. Nazism was a murderous secular religion adhered to with the same vigor as that of the Islamofascists. In fact Hitler is a hero to these people ( and possibly your hero as well). Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Eldes of Zion are best sellers in the Arab world. That should tell you all you need to know.

Nevertheless, I would be interested in reading some of the material you alluded to in a previous post. Material which details the supposed crimes of the Zionists. Please give list the sources of the material as well so I can evaluate how much weight to attribute to them. I am open to learn.


From: James Morris
To: David Levine
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Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: Israel jawboning US into striking Iran

Just a quick footnote: Notice how the Israel first Levine makes no mention of all those Israeli nukes which might just provide the incentive for why Iran and other countries in the region might want them.. He also uses the 'Islamofascist' line to dupe US into fighting more wars for Israel in the Middle East when the 9/11 Hijackers were as secular as it gets and attacked US tragically because of our support of Israel's brutal oppression of the Palestinians:

Video that gets to the Israel question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bm2GPoFfg

Additional at the following URL:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39590


Ron Paul: Iran Attack on Israel An Illusion:

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?p=405623#405623


James Morris <jdtmorris@yahoo.com> wrote:
No Muslim here as I am as secular as it gets.. Nice try with your David Horowitz/neocon ('Islamofascist') propaganda intended to cover the war for Israel agenda.. Israel is not worth the life of one American (except perhaps to a fifth columnist Jewish 'American' like yourself who has one loyalty only and that is to Israel no matter how many Americans have to die/get horribly maimed for such). Former CIA Bin Laden unit head Michael Scheuer said it best in the following youtube in that Israel is not worth even one American life:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAehMPVFFE0
" Israel is not worth an American life or an American dollar."

Israel is no democracy but is a racist Apartheid state instead (I also notice how you conveniently leave out mention of those Christian Palestinians in the West Bank as you spew your Israel first propaganda intended to get even more Americans killed/maimed for Israel in the Middle East). I am voting for Ron Paul (his yard sign will be up soon as will his bumper sticker on the car). The Republicans better have him as their candidate because he will take aways votes from them (like with America first American Republicans like myself) if he runs as an independent... He stuck to the Israel firsters such as yourself via the following:

Neo-CONNED! by Congressman Ron Paul - Part 5 of 11 (must watch!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w_aT6L44Mg&feature=related

http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.BLOGSPOT.COM
Ron Paul addressed the Israel factor on 'Meet the Press' yesterday morning as well (in part 1 via the following youtube link):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=saDw03JXigA&feature=related

Thinking about Neoconservatism (I suggest you read the 'Thinking about Neoconservatism' article via the following URL as the 'democracy' line was simply used as a mask to cover the war for Israel agenda in the Middle East):

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=32606

David Levine wrote:
The NIE report said that Iran had suspended development on nuclesr bomb in 2003. It stated it did not know if the program had been restarted since then. Meanwhile, the most difficult part of building a nuke proceeds and is proceeding and that is the enrichment of uranium. Bush has since stated that Iran now has no reason to enrich uranium as it has received the fuel it needs to run a power plant from the Russians. Nevertheless the centrifuges conti nue spinning for one purpose only- to build a nuclear bomb. All this is obvious to everyone except you and those like you who would like to see the Iranians obtain a nuke to be used in your mind to destroy Israel, to threaten U.S. interests in the M.E. and to control Middle east oil for its own purposes. Traitors to the values we in the west hold dear, people like yourself who would like to see Sharia law take over the world- people who hold freedom of speech, freedom of religion in contempt- people who subjugate their own wives and daughters and think of them as chattel and who deny others the right to worship god according to their own consciences- of course, you will subscribe to the nutty idea that Iran's Mullahs and Imams are peace loving honorable people- Again you assume the world is stupid- everyone except you and your Muslim compatriots understand your game plan - you are deceiving yourself if you think it will work in your favor. The millions of Iranians who would love to overthrow these monsters will be the ones to suffer along with the Islamist idiots who are bringing their own nation and people to ruin.

We all know you are trying to expand Islam by the sword as is mandated as the sixth pillar of Islam. You are an enemy of freedom and the progress of humanity. Bush knows and understands this as do 95% of the senate and congress. Stick with your friends- the losers Carter, Findley, McKinney- and keep trying to sell your lies - that's quite a group you hang out with. Israel's lobbying in Congress is preaching to the choir. The U>S. government has not been fooled.


From: James Morris
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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 3:04 PM
Subject: Israel jawboning US into striking Iran
Israel jawboning US into striking Iran

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=35222&sectionid=351020104
Israel bracing itself for war

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=36093&sectionid=351020202

'Israel has megaton nuclear bombs'

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=36203&sectionid=351020202